
September 27, 2009
Infosmack Episode 21 - Oracle, and VMware. Greg Knieriemen of Chi Corporation and Marc Farley of 3Par and StorageRap.com with Steve Kenniston of EMC and Ed Saipetch of Network Storage and BreathingData.com. This week’s topics include Oracle and VMware, Dell acquires Perot and Carbonite gets ready for an IPO.
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written by Knieriemen, September 28, 2009
written by Knieriemen, September 28, 2009
btenda:
Did Steve say anuthing inaccurate about Carbonite?
Did Steve say anuthing inaccurate about Carbonite?
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written by btenda, September 29, 2009
written by btenda, September 29, 2009
Inaccurate? That's not really the point of my comment. I'm sure his comments were full of inaccurate statements (at least if you asked Carbonite about them they would think so. Probably). EMC (mozy) bashes carbonite and compares them to services that are pretty much outside their targeted accounts so it's not even an apples to apples comparison. It was sort of weird that carbonite even came up and it was pretty obvious that bashing was going on by EMC.
Just my 2-cents of course. I'm all for attacking a company who isn't present to respond.
Just my 2-cents of course. I'm all for attacking a company who isn't present to respond.
Huh?
written by Knieriemen, September 30, 2009
written by Knieriemen, September 30, 2009
I'm not really sure what your point is.
Understand this much: In advance of the podcast, we have a list of topics we start with and the discussion can drift in any number of directions - this isn't scripted. I didn't know what our guest reactions to Carbonite would be (Steve Kenniston is not a Mozy guy even if he works for EMC). Your expectation, apparently, is that for every negative point that is raised on the podcast, we should be prepared for somebody from that other company to also be on the podcast to refute those comments.
This is completely impractical which is why I asked if there was anything inaccurate - we have an obligation to provide accurate information on the podcast but there is no implied obligation to provide every single possible point of view on a subject outside of the views of the guests that happen to be on the podcast at that time.
One last point- Anything on the podcast is free game for criticism... this board is perfect for it. I've also gotten feedback from vendors who have been mentioned on this podcast and every time I've offered them the opportuntiy to come on the podcast to discuss their concerns. I don't know how to be more fair than that. Your comments though really don't speak to any specific concern of something inaccurate being said or even a disagreement in an opinion that was expressed... so I'm not really sure what your point is.
Understand this much: In advance of the podcast, we have a list of topics we start with and the discussion can drift in any number of directions - this isn't scripted. I didn't know what our guest reactions to Carbonite would be (Steve Kenniston is not a Mozy guy even if he works for EMC). Your expectation, apparently, is that for every negative point that is raised on the podcast, we should be prepared for somebody from that other company to also be on the podcast to refute those comments.
This is completely impractical which is why I asked if there was anything inaccurate - we have an obligation to provide accurate information on the podcast but there is no implied obligation to provide every single possible point of view on a subject outside of the views of the guests that happen to be on the podcast at that time.
One last point- Anything on the podcast is free game for criticism... this board is perfect for it. I've also gotten feedback from vendors who have been mentioned on this podcast and every time I've offered them the opportuntiy to come on the podcast to discuss their concerns. I don't know how to be more fair than that. Your comments though really don't speak to any specific concern of something inaccurate being said or even a disagreement in an opinion that was expressed... so I'm not really sure what your point is.
Bashing?
written by steve kenniston, September 30, 2009
written by steve kenniston, September 30, 2009
Greg, thanks for the words...
I wasn't bashing anyone - I actually came from the Avamar acquistion (a backup product itself, which EMC thought about making the core of their consumer backup story, and I am not upset that Mozy is now the product). I am very familiar with the world of backup and was just making some commentary regarding Carbonite. The reality is, I interviewed there several times and each time they brought me in, I felt more like I was presenting to them about how the backup market, at the consumer level works and what the S in the SMB would want rather than a real interview and it got to the point where I had to ask them, where is this going. In a sense I gave the a bunch of free consulting. Also, as far as accuracy, they told me they had plenty of money to do everything they needed to do to grow, then a few months later they went for more funding, has me question what they were telling me. Additionally, and we called this out in the podcast, their own executives were 'pumping' their technology with 'independent' reviews of their own product and finally, they are suing a company over a RAID failure. Our point was, how does a company like this, in this economy go public? That was all.
I wasn't bashing anyone - I actually came from the Avamar acquistion (a backup product itself, which EMC thought about making the core of their consumer backup story, and I am not upset that Mozy is now the product). I am very familiar with the world of backup and was just making some commentary regarding Carbonite. The reality is, I interviewed there several times and each time they brought me in, I felt more like I was presenting to them about how the backup market, at the consumer level works and what the S in the SMB would want rather than a real interview and it got to the point where I had to ask them, where is this going. In a sense I gave the a bunch of free consulting. Also, as far as accuracy, they told me they had plenty of money to do everything they needed to do to grow, then a few months later they went for more funding, has me question what they were telling me. Additionally, and we called this out in the podcast, their own executives were 'pumping' their technology with 'independent' reviews of their own product and finally, they are suing a company over a RAID failure. Our point was, how does a company like this, in this economy go public? That was all.
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Question: is "Cloud Storage" just the next storage buzz word that never pans out? Probably.
You guys should have someone from Carbonite on to counter the guy from Mozy (EMC) who just bashed them for 10 minutes.