Storage Monkeys

The first 6+ minutes of this was garbage. Edit that crap out. It certainly sounds like you edited other parts of it.

Yes Pillar has 4Gb connectivity (you can have my job if you want it). I don't know anybody that has 2Gb (except for COPAN).

Greg, The Sun/LSI relationship is just 4 years old. Not 10. Sales have been dismal. They dropped LSI in the past when they bought the T3 and didn't get hurt at all. They dropped DotHill about 3 years ago with no ill effect. You're playing up the LSI relationship too much.

I do agree that Larry won't touch HDS and will probably add Pillar. The LSI relationship hasn't done much for Sun.

btenda:

You are simply wrong on so many levels...

1) If you listen to the podcasts, the banter is a regular thing and it's what makes the podcast so much more entertaining and educational - no fear, there's no shortage of dry webcasts/podcasts out there to put you to sleep

2) StorageTek was OEM'ing LSI well before the Sun acquisition and since that is now part of Sun's legacy, Greg Schulz was 100% accurate

I've listened to nearly every Infosmack and I really like it. So much that I'm going to finally buy an ipod so I can be mobile and listen to it at the same time. I like StorageIO and it was great to finally match a voice to the white papers.

Hi btenda.
Yes they have 4GB front end connectivity to a 2GB back end. The slammers have 4GB front end ports the bricks use 2GB connections.

That's not a 4GB array. It's a 2GB array with 4GB front end ports.

How much do you earn? I want to estimate what nice things I'll be able to buy myself.

On latency vs capacity: I don't know the percentages are in the industry but I say with absolute confidence that in my shop, for the forseeable future, latency will always be secondary to capacity. Maybe that's not fair to the apps that would greatly benefit but the reality is I have a finite budget trying to manage a capacity explosion. Until capacity is a non issue latency gets to take a back seat (for the most part). With each generation of capacity, performance is also improved which makes the situation a whole lot easier to swallow. There are definitely many organizations with different a perspective to this balancing problem but I'd bet I'm not too far off for the majority of businesses and government offices.

First let me say thanks for being able to participate in the recent infosmack, it was a fun session.

Btenda welcome to storagemonkeys and thanks for the comments.

As for the first 6+ minutes in the podcast, do like I did via my iphone, skip over parts you don’t like, its really easy

However, I am curious, could you tell which parts were edited out or did you hear about what was edited out?

As for the job stuff, talk to zilla.

As to Sun/LSI, someone else set the record straight on that, and as to playing up the LSI relationship that Sun/STK had and still have, Im simply putting it on the table as part of the broader discussion which is now playing out in this thread and thanks for getting involved in the discussion.

With that, now back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Cheers gs

zilla, I was simply commenting on your statement that they have 2Gb frontend ports. I only corrected you because you said that you were sure SOMEONE would. I didn't want to let you down. As for 2Gb vs 4Gb it's really irrelevant (as is 8Gb). You can't saturate any array on the market today with the amount of spindles it would take to saturate the backend ports in any system in the market. SSD can but most companies that support SSD limit the # of SSDs to much lower than what it would take to saturate the ports. Do some math using 8K blocks and see how ridiculous the drive counts become to saturate 1Gb, 2Gb, 4Gb and 8Gb ports.

Greg,
I did skip a lot of the "banter". It's not a big deal but I thought 6 minutes was a bit much. I will concede the point that Sun (through STK) has been partnered with LSI for 10-ish years. That's pretty much irrelevant since the last 3-5 are what matter (not many 10 year old systems out there today). I still stand by my "They dropped LSI in the past when they bought the T3 and didn't get hurt at all. They dropped DotHill about 3 years ago with no ill effect. You're playing up the LSI relationship too much." statements.

"I am curious, could you tell which parts were edited out or did you hear about what was edited out?"
i swear I could hear weird breaks that left me with the impression that something was cut. Not a big deal I'm sure it was done to shorten the podcast. They just could have shortened the beginning some more

btenda:

Thanks for the feedback.

On the banter: I understand that some people aren't going to like it but Farley and I decided to do a podcast like this because it's different and I think it makes it clear that we don't take ourselves too seriously. Some people want things a little more straight forward but I don't think that's our style. The feedback though has been overwhelmingly positive in part because of the banter and the joking around.

On editing: I edit for length, for errors and for long pauses (and for my excessive ummms and ahhhs). The actual length for this last podcast was, I think, like an hour and thirty minutes. As it is now, 50 minutes is way too long (and we'll be fixing that in the near future).

Again, thanks for the feedback and please keep it coming.

I like the banter but that's just me